on latest public Zeeon, iOS 18.7.2 and iPhone 16 plus

iPad OS 16.1.1 iPad Pro 11

Sometimes it says loading audio unit. Happens so far with apple earbuds plugged in Trying to reproduce with just speaker mode, so far seems fairly common but no specific steps

ios 18.3.1

iphone xs max

Zeeon 1.64

1. Open Drambo and create an Audio Unit Instrument
2. Add Zeeon to the Audio Unit Instrument
3. Click the map button and map some parameters
4. Change a patch in Zeeon. The mapped knobs should update with the new parameters of the patch. However this does not happen - the knobs do not change their position to match the parameter values of the new patch.

This is frustrating because unlike Drambo, Zeeon does not support relative cc midi control. The only way to get Zeeon to respond correctly to relative cc midi controls is to load it in Drambo and then map its parameters, however this doesn't work properly as outlined above.

If yes is there a list what messages map to what control?

i really really like the sound of zeeon!

This setup works:

This setup does not work:

iPad Pro 12.9 2018 v 15.5. Zeeon is up to date.

Zeeon has a spookily similar issue to Moog.

I sent a message, but there was an error 404…

Fri 29th October 2021

Hi JJ and whomsoever else at BeepStreet. Love your instruments. Using Zeeon now because on my iPadOS iPad Pro 2 12.9 inch, the Moogs (Model D and Model 15) have gone ‘wonky’. Their arpeggiation started to sound different on the recorded midi block, to what I was playing. Not WYSIWIG (er, WYPINWGR?! Pls pronounce it Wipin-Wigr). Anyway…I turned to Zeeon as one of the handful of ‘mainstays’ I have on iOS, and unfortunately, found it also has suddenly started to suffer the same issue.

I did a few tests, and narrowed the Moog down to it being that either an extra key was getting ‘stuck down’ invisibly when the MIDI block was put on record and appeared in GarageBand on my iPad Pro 2, or a key was the opposite - not being pressed. It made the arpeggiation go as I say ‘wonky’.

Your Zeeon seemed absolutely fine. Right up until tonight (Friday 29th - Halloween weekend of all things) when I just laid down a very short chord sequence of 3 notes (triad), then two note chord, then another 3 note chord, then a final 2 note chord. Nothing really at all. Now, I thought when I played it back in GB, ‘that sounds a bit thin’. Those triads were not the lush soft pad sound they should be.

On inspection ( I took screenshots), looking at the MIDI block in green on the GB track Zeeon is on, it is mysteriously devoid of my triads! Only TWO NOTES were recorded in parallel each time. The actual 2-note ‘chords’ came out fine.

HOWEVER when I went into ‘edit’ moded, the track balloons up as normal, that kind of zoom-in thing, then the three-note triads mysteriously reappeared in MIDI line form - but crucially, the full complement of 3 notes do NOT sound off. One is left out, even though it is clearly visible on the screen, but only in ‘edit’ mode.

Perplexing, is the word. Has never happened before, and I have had iOS/iPadOS 14.8 for a while. I just upgraded to 14.8.1 and am using the latest version of GB in the iPad Pro 2 12.9 inch. It’s got 75Gb free SSD out of 512Gb, and I am on the cloud because I don’t want that space to diminish as fast as it would if I stored stuff on the ipad itself, directly.

Following my IT experience that you look for the change that happened around the time of the issues beginning, this reeks of the move by developers to make their Audio Units compatible with iOS 15. Of course, I won’t move to iOS 15 for about a year at least - heck I missed out iOS 8 entirely! I just didn’t update for a year, it was a stinker.

So, that’s as much as I can narrow it down. It seems something to do with your devs’ hard work making the AUs iOS-15 compatible, has caused a weird glitch, and if it happens to MOOG and to BeepStreet, that’s ominous. Because you are both really, really good at what you do.

It’s not life or death, but I literally cannot play anything and be sure it will be the same once MIDI-recorded. In fact, it definitely is NOT going to be the same. With the Moog, there was another weird glitch, but I strangely managed to cure that, by deleting that particular track/Moog instance, and simply adding a Model 15 in afresh to a new track. The delinquent Moog, seemed to be alone in doing other ‘wonky’ stuff. Odd really - digital stuff is very repeatable usually.

I hope you can fix it - now I have to try ‘synthmaster’ which is another mainstay, and see if that will work. I have a feeling it won’t, if they’ve made it iOS-15 compatible. We’ll see. I hate doing IT experiments, I was very happy these past few days doing music problems!

Take care, keep well. You will resolve it I am sure.

My best

Ian R Margetts aka Richard Getts on itunes etc (‘Hot Woman Cool T-bird’ and others).

Banks shop is available in the standalone app.

Has the IAP been removed now, if not, how do I get to it?

Thanks,

Daniel

Anyone else have this issue?

Also - is it possible to delete entire Preset Banks at once in Zeeon? If so, how?

Thanks for any info...

JF.

Also, sequencer Gate and Swing sliders could be moved a wee bit to the left.

Making a keyboard and sequencer slightly smaller should make it properly scaled.

just jamming out with zeeon this morning for a couple hours and decided to screen capture a bit of it. this synth sounds so great! not the best performance ever but it has some interesting moments and was fun to just zone out and jam. i used fugue machine to loop some notes where i can easily change the pitch and add in notes on the fly, processed the sound thru the amazing alteza and modley effects ... it gets interesting at around 11 minutes when i remembered that the sub oscillator was right there 😎😏 just scroll thru the video and check out different parts as i doubt anyone will listen to the whole thing ,but it’sa fun practice that i encourage everyone to do from time to time, to just slow down and enjoy each of the synths we have collected over the years on ios. there’s so many its easy to forget to just open one and let it rool!

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-sCkh3h_50/?igshid=15va3d865sxd9

ive assigned my Arturia minilab mk2 to all the Zeeon controls, beautiful. But when I tweak on layer 1, then switch to layer 2 and tweak some more, pressing layer 1 changes what I’d previously set to the layer 2 setting.

e.g. Layer 1 - I change cutoff to 32%. Switch to layer 2 and change cutoff to 78%. Switch back to layer 1 and cutoff is also suddenly now at 78%.

i think it might be because the cc assignment is controlling cutoff for both layer 1 AND layer 2. Zeeon is not differentiating between the two.

can this be fixed?