Polyphonic note offset

edited July 2024 in How to's

I'm trying to make a polyphonic voice where each note has a very small random offset. Problem is that everything I try ends up not being polyphonic. The voice is polyphonic but the random offset isn't individual per note it offsets all notes together.

I've tried this.

I've also tried this with the Randomizer Modulator.

Do I need to go with a Many to Poly or is there a simpler way that I'm missing?

Comments

  • Hhmmmm.

    How about using the Voice Selector module?

  • I can't say I understand the Voice Selector module enough to make that happen.


  • This seems to work. Surely there's like a half dozen ways to make this happen.

  • edited July 2024

    Maybe instead of using the pitch bend module, modulate pitch itself from the random (btw I would leave random at 1.0 and modulate lower—this way you only change amount in one place if you need)

    The PB module doesn’t have the (1) icon so it shouldn’t be the reason, but I would try that first

    Also I’m a big fan of the meta randomizer instead of plain random, maybe you can find some creative ways to use it with you’re trying to achieve

    I guess you want to liven up a hihat straight 16th kind of thing, or something, but now you got me thinking using the same concept for timing of individual voices in chords, like a guitarist doesn’t pick all strings in a chord exactly the same time, so a slight random delay would maybe humanize it a lot

  • Meta Randomizer?

    Definitely on melodic instruments. Ive done it before and it can be interesting with just the slightest drift between notes but couldn’t figure how I had done it.

  • edited July 2024

    Ha I never noticed the category was called Meta. Whats the difference between the Meta and not Meta exactly? Just the fact that its modulatable?

  • I think I figured out why it wasn't working before. It seems that when you change the input and output types of the Rack to Pitch that it works per voice.


  • Hold on now the original one had Pitch on the ins and outs as well. Is it the fact that the random module was originally not contained in the same rack?

  • edited July 2024

    Hmm. Without knowing your patch in detail, it either sounds like you had something inbetween that downmixed the polyphony to one, or that you've expected too much from the MIDI Pitch Bend - PB always applies to all notes on the same MIDI channel. That's how it works by definition.

    Individual pitch bends per note would require MPE.

  • The pitch bend module you're referring to from above isn't the Midi module it's just a Scale Offset module I named Pitch bend so I would remember what I put it there for.

    The last picture I posted is working for me. I'm just confused as to why sometimes the random module will get triggered by every note and sometimes only on the first note. Even using round Robin on both. I haven't figured out the variable yet.

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