Preset change linked to a clip
Hello,
Trying to figure out preset change linked to a clip for live performances.
So the PC (program change) does change preset on some AUv3 for instance Dagger - but then all dagger controls are somehow stuck to their original values and no playing is possible except with the original preset values
can anyone confirm its a bug or that’s intended behaviour and i am doing something wrong ?
The instrument rack preset system is not working with Program change as far as i ve tried. Due to the lack of « snaphot » like function tied to a playing clip, i have a hard time to organise one instrument playing for different tracks with different settings and notes - it would be necessary to map dozens of conrols and automate them to a fixed value which is visually absurd in a live situation.
Yes its possible to change the whole drambo file for a given track but then every time i have to restart the external midi clock (press stop and start on stage, because when opening new file in drambo its stopped and waits for a start signal). I am not using ableton link anymore as its super wobbly and destroying quality on the audio warped clips in the computer so i sync drambo with a midi clock from ableton live, works very fine thru IDAM usb protocol with some latency adjustment.
Any ideas welcome. Have a nice week
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@giku
I wish there is something like synced internal recording buffer where you can record output from master, then keep in playing / looping, then load new project and after you hit play it starts play in sync with that buffer and now you can crossfade from buffer back to new loaded playing project.
That would be game changer for live performance.
Maybe one day. For now i see only way to use Drambo inside AUM and use for transitions Link synced another instance of Drambo with flexi sampler … Didn’t tried this concept yet, but this is the way how i plan to build live set.
@dendy the Amplify app does something similar to what you’ve described
and it works providing you keep the tempo the same.
On another note how do you perform your live sets?
I come from a more traditional background where musicians
are used to stopping at the end of a song or piece.
That’s the time when we also check our tuning, the next song we’re going to perform
and it’s also the best time to talk to the audience.
So you use MIDI PC Generator module before e.g. Dagger and p-lock PC value on clips? (hold clip and change PC value)
(just double checked and it works)
well, i play mostly psytrance - in dance music it is ezpexted thay music creates continuous flow and often one track is somehow related to another so they create something what people tens to call “story”…
i play live jams from hw, core of my setup is always digitakt&digitone (or syntakt) plus sometimes other synths.. one “song” is basically one pattern, so i stay for example for 5-6 minutes, mute/unmute tracks, tweak sounds .. then i just switch to another pattern .. elektron devices thankfully preserve reverb/delay tails so it is a kinda smooth transition (not ideal though)
On elektrons you can have completely different sounds on every pattern, and also pattern can hold prochram change information for external synth… This is not possible in drambo so inam now thinking how i can translate my hw workflow into iOS .. Probably the method i described above will be doable…
Thinking about a switch rack, a layers like rack that process only active layer (with tail option)
@gravitas
hm didn’t know that Groovebox has such feature !! I like Groovebox for live jam purposes, inhave to try it, thanks !
so it would be possible to choose layer per pattern and other layers would take zero CPU ?
Ok, that sounds pretty cool, almost the “game changer” level !!
yes
Thanks for the description.
It's actually Launchpad.
No worries.
This is will certainly be useful. ;)
Yes it works, but then its impossible to tweak the synth controls - they glimpse to some other value then immediately return to the preset default value (sorry if not clear from my initial post).
While this is working its not usable (for example i can’t tweak dagger filter anymore if i have PC p-locked into a clip)
wow no cpu - that would be game changer.. also would work for different instances of auv3 like koala i suppose. What about RAM?
Nice, i am also into psytrance ! Drambo engine has one of the purest fm sounds ever seen in software realm!
yes it’s pretty good but try also Butter Synth FMX modulation - it was modelled on Nord Lead 2 FM oscillators cross modulation, it has 1:1 that classic psytrance iconic fm lead sound :-)
since you mentioned this i literally can't sleep still thinking about how AMAZING would be this feature .. hope you didn't give up on this idea and at some point it will become reality...
found another great use case for such module - like “freezing” when CPU hit’s it’s limit
imagine you are out of cpu - you just add some imstrument/chain as layer 1, then you add sample player as layer 2 .. then you sample loop from layer 1 , switch to layer 2 and load just that loop
voila .. cpu is free but you still can keep in project original instrument, just in case you need re-recoed it with some changes / tweaks
Man. This module would be revolution.
it's coming
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This is incredible news! Drambo, the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks giku!
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you made me buy it thanks
any news about this ? waiting for this like for salvation 🤣
hope not this way:
Haha! My gif was uploaded and is not working. I didn’t know you could have outsourced links.
yes just drop link to gif directly to text snd it then animates
Holy shit ... was totally overloaded by work in recent few weeks and didn't noticed new beta with LAYER SWITCH module ...
This is GENIUS. GAME CHANGER.
Now i can build entire continous set in single project .. Wow. Wow. Fucking WOW.
@giku you are god
Yes, layer switch is the answer to my prayers in regards to losing midi mappings with preset change.
Does this solve the issue of automating layer change with clip change? I hardly ever change clips so I’m a bit green but asking for a friend. 😉
Pssst :) still on BETA . @supadom you may clip lock layer
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